Where Next? Travel with Kristen and Carol
Where Next? Travel with Kristen and Carol
How to Beat Jet Lag and Boost Your Travel Health with Andrew Herr, Founder of Flykitt
Jet lag isn’t just about time zones—it’s an inflammation problem you can solve. We sit down with Andrew Herr, founder and CEO of FlyKitt and former human performance strategist at the Pentagon, to unpack why flights drain you and how to land clear-headed, calm, and ready to sleep on night one. Andrew connects dots most travelers miss: rapid cabin pressure shifts mimic an 8,000-foot ascent, low-oxygen air boosts oxidative stress, and sleep debt compounds immune activation. The fix starts with managing inflammation, then using light, timing, and targeted supplements to shift your circadian rhythm on command.
We go deep on what actually makes you feel lousy in the air—swollen legs, brain fog, gut issues—and how to counter it with simple, scalable steps. Andrew reveals how FlyKitt’s app personalizes a plan from six questions, no lab work needed, and why fasting can help but isn’t required when you address the root causes. We unpack diet basics that move the needle for most travelers (more protein, more vegetables, less sugar and ultra-processed foods), common deficiencies like omega-3s and B12, and the surprising link between inflammation and anxiety many noticed after COVID. You’ll also hear how elite performers—from special operations to pro sports teams—use these strategies, including a pro team’s world tour that saw a 94% reduction in jet lag symptoms.
If red eyes usually wreck your next day, you’ll get a blueprint to make them productive. If domestic hops leave you foggy, you’ll learn a short protocol that protects your energy and digestion. Along the way, Andrew shares field stories—from Iceland’s Spartan Ultra to time with Kazakh eagle hunters—that highlight how resilience is built with smart stress, timing, and recovery. Ready to trade groggy landings for focused mornings and solid sleep? Press play, take notes, and try the protocol on your next trip.
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Hi, welcome to our podcast, Where Next? Travel with Kristen and Carol. I am Kristen. And I am Carol. And we're two long-term friends with a passion for travel and adventure.
SPEAKER_03:Each episode, we interview people around the globe to help us decide where to go next. Today I want to introduce Andrew Herr, who's the founder and CEO of Flight Kit, and he is an entrepreneur that's transforming the way travelers safeguard their health. And I'll let Andrew get all into that. But besides running this company, Andrew is also an adventure seeker with remarkable real-world stories from competing in the Spartan Ultra World Championships in Iceland to living with Kazakh nomads who train eagles to hunt. So welcome, Andrew. I don't know what Kazakh is or the Spartan Ultra World Championship. So great.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks, Carol. Thanks, Kristen. Yeah, I think uh what to tell. I spent the first seven years of my career working in and out of the Pentagon, helping the military think about and then implement optimizing human performance. How do we make our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines perform as best as they could? I got to work with truly elite performers in special operations, fighter pilots, and people like that. And since then, I've built a couple of companies uh focused on optimizing health and performance for executives, entrepreneurs, and now really everybody focused on travel. The people who live in the western part of Mongolia are ethnically Kazakh, and they train big golden eagles to hunt um wolves and fox and everything like that. And it's pretty uh it's pretty wild out there in more than one sense of the word. And then um, yes, I've gotten to do some some fun kind of adventure races in the middle of winter when it's not very light for most of the day.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so Mongolia. So we've done a couple episodes on Mongolia where there's nomads.
SPEAKER_00:I've been to Mongolia twice, but that but in that one, in that case, I was just there for a week with those nomads. Um beautiful country. I have really very little but great things to say about Mongolia.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, awesome. So I'm curious also about like the beginning. You've said a lot so far, and I couldn't find you. Or I what was your life growing up? Like, how did you get into fitness, the Pentagon? Did you make, you know, as a kid want to do that? Did you go to college for it?
SPEAKER_00:Or say if I lived my life 10 times, I would have been a doctor, five of them. My dad's a doctor, I grew up around that. And then my mom started the family, kind of like military, military, military. And so we had both elements of that growing up, and then found a program where I could do technology and national security in university. Then the government offered to pay for me to go to grad school, and I that sounded like a good deal for me because I only had to work for them for a summer to pay it back. Ended up getting master's degrees in health physics, in immunology, and in national security policy. And somebody walked into the career center and said, we need someone who does biology and national security and can write. And they're like, Well, we know this guy, Andrew. And so I got hired by the Pentagon, basically by the think tank that looks out in the future directly for the Secretary of Defense to run a program on the future of human performance and biotech and how those things might change warfare and change the world. You know, working with um helping research development strategy, and then I was working with individuals, trying to figure out how to optimize performance on a specific types of long-duration dive missions. And I learned in that process that the pressure changes in diving can cause inflammation in your body. That's actually why people feel so tired after the scuba dive. Um, and then based on some other work I was doing, figured out that that's why you feel so bad when you fly, because you have these pressure changes when you fly, not as big as diving, but enough to cause inflammation in the body. And then the low oxygen environment, when you're in a plane, there's 26% less oxygen, give or take, when you're at altitude. And that puts you in a situation where brain fog, gut issues, swelling in your legs. Suddenly, jet lag isn't just about the time zones. You realize it's really about the inflammation, and then how the inflammation makes it hard to shift to shakadian rhythm. I can tell the story, but basically that led to me inventing this full solution of jet lag.
SPEAKER_01:Does that also throw in menopause?
SPEAKER_00:So most menopausal women are in a zone where they're going to have more inflammation. It's an age-related thing. The hormone hormone fluctuations can also cause inflation. A little known fact, but a lot of PMS is actually an inflammatory event. And so, because of hormone fluctuations, now you're in a very different type of hormone fluctuation. Yeah. But you're right in the zone, and we've and we do absolutely find that solving inflammatory issues makes menopause less challenging. So we're really, you know, my background in immunology obviously has a lot to do with inflammation. And so, yeah, so long story short, we've figured out how to solve why you feel bad on, you know, for jet lag, because once we solve the inflammation, we can flip your circadian rhythm overnight, as we now do for more than 90% of people. And then even on short flights, when you get off and you just don't feel great, kind of just in a fog the rest of the day, your gut might be off, constipation, other things. We haven't we solved that too. And so we have two products Flykit International for jet lag, fly kit domestic for shorter flights that are really transformative. I mean, I used I stopped wanting to travel at some point because I felt so bad every time I flew. And now the work we've done has changed my life and has changed the lives of many, many travelers.
SPEAKER_01:It's funny. When I get on a flight, I just had a long flight from Florida to California and back, um, except for I just didn't get enough sleep on the way back. That one was a little tougher. So I was a little exhausted. But on the way there, which I lost, you know, I left at 9:45 a.m. and got there at 9 p.m. because I had a layover, unfortunately. You know, I just feel like I got to sleep and then I'm good and then I have no problem. But on the plane, I love it because I'm forced to be there and I can't do anything like I normally am working out, doing this, doing that. And so then I'm like, I guess I'll watch a movie. I guess I'll take a nap. I guess I'll eat my food. Just kind of like it's sort of forced, but that's just me.
SPEAKER_03:So I have a question about the inflammation, like on the plane. Because yeah, a lot of times like you know, take your shoes off, you feel your sh feet start to swell just a tiny bit. Like what causes that? Just the less oxygen you're saying.
SPEAKER_00:So it's two things. The pressure change, it's like climbing an 8,000-foot mountain in 15 minutes when you take off. And that does a number on your body. Um, you've it's not exactly the same, but it has things similar to altitude and decompression sickness. And then the lower oxygen environment causes oxidative stress that can, which is um basically kind of free radicals start damaging parts of your cells, and that can lead to an inflammatory response too, if you don't protect your body. Um, but what we've done at FlyKit is figured out how to protect your body in a way that means the stuff you don't get the negative effects um and you can feel much better. And we even get a lot of reports about people used to get sick every time they fly that don't anymore.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, wow. Okay. Does some of that include more oxygen? Because I know, like in because I've been in Colorado and we they actually like sell oxygen at the airport for you know newcomers.
SPEAKER_00:Couldn't do that. I mean, that would be one thing, but um, it's not, you're not allowed to bring those bottles on a plane, restaurants. Oh, right. Okay. There's plenty of oxygen on the plane, they just don't let you have it. Um, unless it's emergency, you don't really want it, to be honest, because the emergency. But yeah, the we're not giving you oxygen, we're using supplements to block the effects of that pressure change in the low oxygen environment. Things can spread the oxidative stress and damage to your cells and the activation of your immune system. Keep it low, keep it healthy and low. By doing that, then you can feel great, you know, from the moment you arrive.
SPEAKER_01:So they're not like, is this a known thing and shouldn't they just pump it through the plane while the patients are or patients, haha, the the passengers are going. Because what I also know is um when I did a couple long flights, and even this one too, they have that blue light, you know, that also is supposed to help with, you know, air sickness or just like the, you know, the flight.
SPEAKER_00:It's not that there's less oxygen in the air. It's the same percentage of the air as you get down on your sea level. It's just there's less air pressure because they only pressurize the cabin to 8,000 feet on most commercial airliners. So that's why you're getting so much less oxygen. Why don't they pressurize it all the way? It costs more money. And it costs more money because that pressurization would um basically cause more fatigue on the plane body. And so um, as a result, it's cheaper in the long run for them to have less pressure inside because the pressure outside is is even lower. And so basically the newest planes, the 350, 8350, and the 787, are better because they pressurize to um about 5,000 feet relative because they're ceramic. But even at that, um, it's better, but still not enough to protect your body fully. Interesting.
SPEAKER_03:I have a couple questions. So then we could go into more like exactly like what the fly kit does. But the generally I've also heard like not eating on a plane is actually better for jet leg because your body then is not working on the food, it's just working on maybe balancing everything else out. And what about um, you know, intake of water? Like any thoughts on those two items?
SPEAKER_00:Fasting can help because fasting helps prevent inflammation. And so but we figure out a way to give that to you without having to fast. And then when you fast, but you also you know prevent your brain from having the nutrients and support, and that can cause stress-hormone response. And so basically, fasting is good for stopping inflammation, but the best thing is to use these other protocols that can stop the inflammation, but also you can eat so your brain and body have the fuel they need to not have to stress. So, yeah, that's why fasting can be useful, but um, we've developed a protocol that kind of makes it obsolete. Well, you do lose more water. The lower pressure air basically makes water evaporate faster from your mouth and breathing and so even your skin. So you do want to drink a lot of water. Everyone knows they feel more dehydrated. Part of the reason though is the inflammation can pull fluid into tissues like swelling. And so you're actually losing water kind of from circulation in two ways. So you want to drink plenty of water when you travel for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Interesting. What are the products? So you said there's two products, one for short flights, one for long flights. And is it like a liquid, a pill?
SPEAKER_00:So to truly eliminate jet lag. And by truly eliminate, I mean we ran a study with uh Pro Sports team in Miami where Messi plays if you're a soccer fan. And they did an around the world trip, five stops, five games, four cities truly around the world, 24 time zones. Um, and they saw nine, the people players who use flight saw 94% less symptoms than those who didn't. And so you get truly incredible benefits. And the way we do it is we give you five different supplements, and we have an app that calculates a custom program for your body and your trip and your sleep schedule for when to eat, sleep, and use these different supplements and the blue-eye blocking glasses in your kit. So the kit has everything you need, and the app gives you a custom program and makes it simple. It just gives you a notification anytime you need to do something. Okay, got it.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. How do you do that? Is it like lead work, saliva work, anything? It's kind of like here's your weight.
SPEAKER_00:We've been able to we figured out how to make it simple by asking you six questions that tell us about your physiology. Things you might not realize are telling us what we need to know, but if you get less than six hours of sleep for one night, how much does it affect you? That tells me both about sleep sensitivity, but also about your propensity to inflammation. What kind of diet we ask you, do you eat a vegan or a ketogenic diet? We we have some different questions. And so, um, but it's simple. You only have to answer six questions and give us your flights and your sleep schedule. Um, and it provides a totally custom plan via our AI algorithms.
SPEAKER_01:Curious about the different food, like you said, vegan, keto diet, you know, American diet, whatever it is. Is there difference? Like it is just in general, is one diet better than another for most of the people?
SPEAKER_00:For jet lag or for jet in general? Both. Okay. Well, I mean, I spent a lot of my career working on general performance outside of travel. Most food is very unhealthy in America. The processed foods contain things that are extremely bad for you. The typical first ways they dysregulate you are via your metabolism and the cause health problems downstream, type 2 diabetes, but also inflammation. The simplest heuristics you can take away from that are eat less carbs and sugar and eat more protein and eat more vegetables. I might sound like your mother, but like if you want the very answer, the simple answer is to do that. Now, I used to just see blood work from elite performers, see, you know, from athletes and you know, CEOs, others. More recently, I've been seeing blood work from people who are more closer to average Americans. And I will tell you, they don't eat a lot of fish. How do I know? I've been seeing omega-3 fatty acid levels in their blood lower than I've ever imagined. So most people could do well by eating more fish or taking an omega-3 supplement. Um, and also a lot of people have low vitamin B12 levels, and that probably has to do with both absorption and or what they eat. So the answer is there's no best diet for anyone because our physiologies are quite different. But run an experiment for a month, try a diet for a month. Do you feel better? Does your body composition get better? I don't say lose weight because I want you to gain muscle and lose fat or keep muscle and lose fat. So is your body composition better? Do you feel better? Because anything you do for two weeks every day in a row and you feel better is probably good for you long term. There's a couple things that aren't that aren't, but like 99% of things, if you feel worse doing it, it's probably like it's probably not going to be great for you long term. Unless you just like with it. So that's kind of where I would, that's kind of where I'd be. Um work out more and some other things too. But um, from there, the customization is cool. Like, is it better to cut calories or to just do fasts one day a week or do intermittent fasting? And the answer is in studies, cutting calories the same by the same amount as you get by doing intermittent fasting, same results.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I was wondering. Is this does it work? Because since you're fasting for eight hours or you know, 16 hours, you just don't have as much time to eat. So if you're not having that late night snack, it's all about the same.
SPEAKER_00:Like you don't eat one day a week and you eat six days a week versus cutting 15% of your calories, which is about the same amount, you lose about the same amount of weight. Now there are different, but some people will do better with one than the other. That's just on average, right? Maybe Kristen, you do way better not eating one day a week, and Carol, you do way better by cutting 50% of calories every day. That's one thing that there is currently no way to predict on tests, and anyone who tells you they can test for is lying to you.
SPEAKER_01:Or just how and the best is how you feel, like you were saying. That's uh usually what or the results, right?
SPEAKER_00:Like obviously losing weight, eating less might not make you feel like great, but if you are losing the inflammation and stuff, you are gonna feel better. One thing people don't appreciate is that inflammation causes anxiety also, and obviously anxiety are two of the great American maladies.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my gosh, I didn't know that. I mean, those are my two issues of inflammation and anxiety.
SPEAKER_01:I was I was curious if you noticed a big change and difference. I'm assuming, yes, but I'll ask the question um after COVID.
SPEAKER_00:COVID seemed to, and for some people to vaccine, seem to put people in a pro-inflammatory state. Um so yes, COVID the virus, COVID the vaccine, and COVID the lifestyle change, more at home, more ordering stuff. All three are pro-inflammatory, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, right. Curious how much more. Depends on the person again.
SPEAKER_01:Well, just like as a as a community or like all of people, you know, 20%, 90%. I kind of thought it was a lot.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, the trick is like inflammation is a misunderstood concept. You know, you go to a doctor's office, they test your maybe maybe if they're good, they test your high sensitivity C reactive protein, which is a measure of inflammation from your blood. But that can be normal and you can have tons of inflammation. And so that's the tricky thing is inflammation is a broad term for activation of the immune system. There are many different pathways in the immune system, though. And not all of them show up in a like total systemic-wide fashion. So that's the tricky thing, is you have to be smart about what you're testing. And even testing can't give you everything. Some things are just how you feel. You know if your gut is off and if you feel swollen, things like that. That's inflammation, might not show up on your lab test though. So, for example, food sensitivities are actually allergies, but they're only happening in the lining of your gut and not happening peripherally. So when you take a blood test for them, it can't show it because it's only in the lining of your gut. So, everyone, by the way, who says they have a stool or a blood test for food sensitivities, not food allergies, is lying to you also. But if you run an elimination diet and you see take a bunch of stuff out and then add things work one at a time, and you feel worse when you add things back, that's a great sign that you shouldn't eat that thing because you might be sensitive to it. And let me tell you, if you can eliminate all the foods you're sensitive to, they can give you twice as much energy every day.
SPEAKER_01:Have you heard of so um there's a guy, he's a chiropractor, but turned, I mean, he's been chiropractor nutritionist is kind of retired, but on the side as his practice, it was um removing allergies digitally. Um, so it's a uh Australian um technology. Um, it's called allergy relief centers. And I've gone to him for, I don't know, 14 years now. Um, but he can tell you specifically what it is that's bothering you and even also just, and it's it's worked. I know my daughter, she was a synchronized swimmer for 10 years. Uh, she's coached for three, but when she was seven when she started, she was allergic to chlorine and then, or sensitivity to it, and then it removed it. And then my son, he was five at the time and had sounded like a 90-year-old snoring, did that procedure, and it's just, you know, there's no shots, but it's almost like the allergy test, right? Where they do the little needles and stuff. Um, but it was curious. I don't know if you've ever heard that, or and it's it's worked.
SPEAKER_00:I need to know more about it. I yeah, I haven't seen, you know, I don't know what particular technology it is. So could but look, there's one of the things that's very interesting is medicine wants to tell you that they know so much about the human body. And at once they also are often like, well, there's nothing going on here, and you know you're not feeling well, you know something's wrong. So the truth is we know very little about the human body. What we do know is like the electrical conductivity and movement of electrons matters a lot, for example. We know that things that we used to think were kind of quacky, like sunlight is not good for you just because of vitamin D. There are other components of the sun. There's red and infrared lights in there. There, you know, the UV light hitting your skin, causing a little damage, might actually cause your body to build back and respond and have your skin be more resilient, actually. And so, just as you know, with when you work out and you lift weights, your muscles get bigger and stronger. Well, part of that is an adaptive response called hormesis. And you can have hormesis, hermetic stressors in your skin too. And so all these things um that get really reduced to like sun is good for vitamin D. No, you can't just take vitamin D and replace the sun. You're missing a huge component of what's going on there. So we need to both broaden and accept that we need to go narrower because each person is different. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:And then where where do you um back to this inflammation? Where how do you think sleep or lack of sleep, does that affect inflammation? And um how do you prepare for a flight? Like, did you get more sleep the night before or take a nap?
SPEAKER_00:So sleep restriction is one of the surest ways to cause inflammation in the body. Sleep restriction. However, the trick we figured out with Fly Kid with our jet lag product is you have to get less sleep at some point to get on a new time zone, by definition, right? If you're going to Tokyo and it's eight hours ahead and you sleep eight hours, you're gonna wake up at 4 p.m. I in Tokyo and you're never gonna use bed that night. So I need you to sleep three hours on the plane, not eight, not six, three, maybe four and a half, depends on your itinerary. But then I need to make sure you don't have a bunch of the negative effects of that. And so I can turn off the inflammation using supplements at the right time and the right dose and the right content, temporarily, long enough to get you to bed that night. I can't turn off inflammation from not getting sleep permanently. That would be great, but that's just how it works. Knock it down for that one day to get you there feeling good enough to have to get there and get to bed at 10, 11 p.m. in Tokyo and sleep well that first night. And so we, yes, inflammation is a problem. And if you have the flight inflammation from the pressure and inflammation from not sleeping well, a double hit to the immune system is much more than 2x. It's exponential. And so that's why what we're doing, our algorithm is really in a sophisticated way, kind of orchestrating a concert for you of these different tools, light and supplements and other things, to help with the inflammation, to shift your circadian rhythm, to boost this, to push forward, to pull back, to land you feeling good, but then able to go to sleep that night. And so um, that is really a core part of the fly kit protocol. And then for the domestic product, fly kit domestic, um, we're managing the inflammation from flying, even though there's not as much of a sleep circading component.
SPEAKER_03:And did you take the right, like right, like pre during, and right after, or like for the couple days sometimes?
SPEAKER_00:The protocol, so for jet lag, it starts the morning you leave. That's one of the cool things about it. You have to do days before, which no one's gonna do. And then um it ends really uh the first full day you're there in destination, and then the um flight domestic protocol is shorter and simpler, and it's really four doses around your travel death.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So if someone buys a kit, like is it for one trip, or this is like a kit and should last you for like 10 trips or something?
SPEAKER_00:So the fly kit core pack, the core bundle is good for a round trip anywhere in the world, and you can just buy refills of the supplements, but you keep your glasses and things like that. So yeah, it's good for a round trip anywhere in the world. And you know, you could have 10, 12, 14 days of jet lag if you include there and back. So it's really like$7 a day,$8 a day to stop jet lag totally from all those days you would have felt bad and missed parts of your trip. And um, it's really incredible in that.
SPEAKER_03:I think all the money could save start flying red eyes again. Like at some point, I'm like, I'm never doing a red eye again. It destroyed my whole next day. So, like, how would you handle a red eye? Because you are gonna lose sleep.
SPEAKER_00:You just like force yourself to sleep or turns out a red eye is just like a flight to Europe, more give or take. Use our fly kit international product to do red eyes, and we see business travelers who tell us they feel just as good, basically, for that day in New York if they're coming from LA or things like that. So it's very effective for red eyes. Um, we recommend the Fly Kit International product for that. You can use Fly Kit Domestic for red eyes, but it's probably not gonna be quite as effective.
SPEAKER_01:It's funny with the red eye because it may be a red eye for us, but it's already the day for the where you're going. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that's why you have to shift your circadian rhythm. You've got to manage the sleep debt, you've got to manage the poor sleep on a plane, all those things fly kit helps you do.
SPEAKER_01:Too bad this isn't at the airport in a kiosk, you know, or whatever a coin. It seems like uh that that would be the goal. That yeah, I I could see that that, you know, people would be plugging it in right there then and there at the airport to help with that. Are you working with any airlines or anyone else in terms of uh your partner?
SPEAKER_00:We are building a partnership with Delta. Um, at the beginning of this year, they announced that uh at CES that they were gonna be building a partnership with us this year.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's great. Wow, that's huge. My brother's a pilot for United. And uh my stepmom worked for American Airlines for many, many years. So um they do both of those flights all the time. But um, I will definitely be mentioning this to my brother. He flies ball long distance flights. That's it. That's all he does. So I for me, I don't fly very often. So again, it's like a trip here and there, great. I would like to be flying more. My goal is for two years to fly all over the world in a couple of years, but um, my brother is on planes all the time, so I will definitely be mentioning this to him. Absolutely. So a couple questions on you too. I uh so the Spartan race, did you do the Spartan um Iceland recently?
SPEAKER_00:Uh that was it was a few years back now already, more than a few years back. Um but I did two years in a row, did the Spartan race. It's an obstacle course race of you know, distance plus carry heavy rock, climb, climb big thing, that kind of stuff. And uh that was really, really great.
SPEAKER_03:How far is it?
SPEAKER_00:So the world championship is a third was a then was a 30-mile race um through kind of through and like sleet sleeting on you in Iceland. It was it was great though.
SPEAKER_03:You liked it? Okay, you were like, What am I doing?
SPEAKER_00:The Northern Lights came out the first year. It was just gorgeous.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's that's pretty epic. How long does the race? I know I have a friend who I wake surf with, and he he does it um certain races, but I I just know about it, but I don't know how long is it that it takes?
SPEAKER_00:The you know, it really depends. This race was a 24-hour race, so you could keep going and do as many laps as you could, but you had to do 30 miles to finish. But the the winners were did, you know, I forget 60, 70, 80 miles um in that time.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh. Wow. So you wake up and start at like 4 a.m. and then hopefully end at that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was it was an early start, but there's only a few hours of daylight anyway, so it didn't really matter.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, that's fine. Well, you got the northern light, so that's beautiful. So, what's your goal with Flight Kit?
SPEAKER_00:We want to make healthy travel easy for people. Um, and close to bringing this out to as many people as we can. We've already, you know, had tens of thousands of people use it and have phenomenal experiences. We have you know, dozens of pro and Olympic teams use it, the military. So the elite performers are already onto it. Um, we're already working with three NFL teams this season to do their travel. So nice. We're really excited to be able to help the elite performers and really then bring what we developed to everyday people. And so um, everyday people are our bread and butter audience, and um, we love supporting them and making that whether it's they travel every year, whether they travel 10 times a year, or it's that one trip every 10 years, we want to make it feel great and let people have as good a time as they can.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, and what's your website? Is it uh fly kit with two teas?
SPEAKER_00:F-L-Y-K-I-T-T, like what's on my shirt. Okay, fly kit. Flykit.com, and you can find all about us there.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, great. Well, thank you so much, Andrew.
SPEAKER_00:Awesome. Thanks, Karen.
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